And public transportation would be an hour MAX. People build up, not out, because we dont have NIMBYs. -Check accidents before you leave to go home. (In a perfect world where there were adequate sidewalks, I was in good enough physical health, etc. Also, it looks like the Blue Line will be temporarily shut down. (Not that it needs to be made to sound worse, but there may be a grass-is-greener situation happening where they think about their old life). Unfortunately, as the cost of housing rises in major cities, more people are living outside of them, meaning more traffic. Anangsha Alammyan. Right now my commute is 45 minutes by bus, which I love. Thats actually a huge thing for me on why I do not want to move. Long commutes are the price we pay for a job sometimes. My (Seattle) commute is about 25 minutes of bus and walking. Try it a few times (in summer, when the days are marginally longer, and you have more daylight). A two-hour commute twice a day five times a week is sacrificing a whopping 20 daylight hours of your week - time you will never be compensated or thanked for, nor can you ever replace it. Ultimately I moved walking distance from work, have a 20 min walk and 5 min drive. In LA, you have the option to pick a different location for either your home or your job. I dont mind it so much, because I can zone out while riding the subway and Im not dealing with the stress of driving into DC everyday. Its a perfect storm. Now we live in a different state where distance is measured in minutes, and all our colleagues are amazed we would agree to a 45 minute commute. Then there are the 55, the 57, the 22, the 405 freeways as well. If you give more specifics about where youre at I might be able to recommend areas that make sense to job hunt! Get a budget card and park m deck. I get up at 4 a.m., go to the gym to beat traffic, get home at 7:30-8 p.m. and am in bed by 9 so I dont fall asleep at the wheel. Echoing all the other sentiments of normal is not necessarily ok or sustainable. We live in the same town where we work, but across a dividing highway with limited cross-over options, so some of it is just crossing the highway or navigating campus traffic. My 3 mile commute takes me a full hour on SF Muni! so long as Im actually moving. Do you feel watched? Hah! I used to live in Northridge and worked in El Segundo, 405 all the way. ago I grew up in the Seattle area, then got a job in downtown Seattle. I live in a community that doesnt have a train or a commuter rail. But really try to make sure your mindset on traffic is in a healthy place. That said, I do still miss the beach and weather a ton. Silly question: why not bike or even walk instead? It might be 3 hours at rush hour, when offices and schools re-open. Yep. But the salient point here is that the OP is asking if she has to just suck it up because *shrug*, thats LA, and so many of us are saying that while LA traffic is indeed ridiculous, there are better and worse commutes, and we are reassuring OP that people in LA do indeed make choices that allow them to have more manageable commutes within the terrible, horrible, no-good traffic. The only thing about the train is it takes forever to get anywhere so, kind of like your 2-hour commute, but without you having to steer :). For 8 miles Im usually looking at 30 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening. Depending on where LW lives and works, its likely that there arent direct routes AND that even if there were, it could increase commuting time by an hour (easily). Shorter commute, but when the traffic is bad, it stresses me out more. Theres a reason why people in Southern California give distances in time and not in miles. Its actually longer for the next 6 months while they do construction on the gate closest to me. Ive lived in SoCal for 48 years and never worked more than 20-25 minute drive from any place Ive ever worked (shortest commute: 2-3 minutes.) Oh, and Seattle native here, and I have to tell all you Seattle kids, the traffic in Seattle and surrounding communities is ALREADY as bad or worse than LA. Even then I thought I had no time for anything outside of work! My commute is 2 hours each way because I live outside London on one side, and work in a part of London WAY over on the other side. Is your boyfriends work near yours? Call Now To Get Started at 1 . When peaks are actually mesas, youre equally out of luck if your hours are 7 am to 4 pm, or 11 am to 7 pm. Most people in LA dont have 2 hour commutes because most people arent driving 30 miles to work. I took public transit in LA too (I was 21-26 while I lived there; 30 now, and also look young), so I am 100% familiar with that commute (my friends lived in LB; I lived in Little Armenia). I encourage the LW to either move closer to work and/or to find a job with a shorter commute. The only time Ive ever gotten stuck in traffic in my commute is when theres a wreck, and everyone decides to exit in one lump. nah, you can ride the train home if youve walked in. Then I would pretty much go to bed and head out about 8:15-8:30 in the morning. The worst Ive had for a sustained period of time is 45 minutes. But LA is just so sprawling, and laid out in such an anarchic fasion, I cant imagine a transit system that could resolve these issues (at least in our profit-driven society). Is it 1 hr, 15 mins? because it took 45 minutes just to make it down La Cienega to the 405. Life is too short. (Spoiler, the answer is yesnot that anyone who has driven on congested hwys didnt already know this). In LA only 3% travel more than 90 minutes. We live close to several freeways so that helps his commute a lot. (No kids, no plans for kids, just husband and dog and the enjoyment of my couch and tv. Its not uncommon in my suburban town for it to take 20 minutes to go less than five miles. Its the travel at either side of the train journey train is about 1/2 hour, but 20-30 min bus on either end + waiting for connections. Im originally from Sacramento, and older than dirt. You literally picked the third worst commute in LA. It can be perfectly normal to have this commute in some locations, and some companies accommodate that (allowing flexibility for traffic jams/weather, offset working hours, working 4/10s.) And I even think of Castro Valley as far, but thats not too bad in the grand scheme of things. I used to live in LA got a job in Santa Monica and commuted from the Valley. Because reaction time and stopping distance is a thing, the following happens: Car A starts moving 2 seconds later Car B starts 2 seconds after *that* Car C starts so car number ten has a 20 second total delay. Sigh! Your commute is not going to change before this commute makes you lose your mind. 2 1/2 hours each way while I was working a 9-5 job. Fun fact, I used to work with that guy at his previous job. Mine is 40 45 minutes each way. But then, Im a person who prioritizes short commutes even if it means paying a lot more for housing I recently moved to a more expensive area so that I could have a door-to-desk trip of 15 minutes. One way!). That said, commutes dont *have* to be that long even in this part of the country. I feel your pain. One hour might be okay if it was on the train, and I had a seat both ways, I could get lots of reading done and enjoy some TV shows and movies from Amazon and Netflix. Remote work is the wave of the future, and eliminating 4 hour round-trip commutes are one of the many reasons why. Seattle traffic is getting so bad, Tacoma to Seattle can be easily 2+ hours, both ways. Im excited to see what everyone thinks and shares. Ive only ever lived/worked in the Midwest. I do a 75-minute commute by public transport, but I live in London and an hour for the commute is pretty standard here. I want to point out that the OPs situation and the article Alison links to is Apples to oranges. You do need to try and be organised though and get a good nights sleep. There was even a Steve Martin movie that involved traffic signs. Yeah once I had stopped an hour commute, I shudder thinking about ever having to do that again. if I wanted to sleep. Easily 1-2 hours more. Did the research note distance? Opps.looks like you already work out in the morning. A couple of my team members fly in for half the week from LA or San Diego. There is one (1) single freeway to get from the east side to the west side. A big difference for the NYC person is that So Cal has lots and lots of space to sprawl (so we did pushing living spaces and working spaces further and further apart) and we are car obsessed. If OP reads this and thinks, You know, thats not at all the tone hes using, and I dont think hes trying to convince me Im foolish for feeling stressed about this, then hooray. I live in OC, and yes, you see completely different realities if you drive rather than take transit, if you go to Los Angeles by car and park, or if you use the trains and subway. Not that Im saying that there hasnt historically been white flight but it happens in pockets instead of concentric circles. 6am hour -- power outtages impact Bellevue/Issaquah and eastern King County after overnight wind storms, still no new Republican House Speaker after 6 votes, US alpine skiing phenom Mikaela Shiffrin is about to topple some career records for women's skiing, Lynnwood WA . We, however, plan on moving to the valley (sigh) to fix it as soon as we can. I have a 30-35 minute commute and that is plenty long enough. I went from a job where I worked from home 100% of the time to one where I commuted 90 minutes (if I was lucky) by train and subway. My current commute from the northwest corner of OC to the south Irvine area takes me 45 minutes and I think this is roughly standard for this general area. used to be 25 minutes until we moved. Many people commute 2hrs+ every day. Your boyfriend can move to you this time. My parents are the same waysmall city folk who come to visit in my mid-size city and are like, Do we HAVE to drive downtown? And when Im home they encourage me not to go places during rush hour, which equals just steady, moving traffic. I live in a big city with a lot of surrounding suburbs that makes a huge metro area. 30 miles seems like a long commute distance-wise for the LA area, but 2 hours is what I would expect that to take during rush hour. If this job allows you the finances/time to travel, do things you love then its something you have to take into account. I wouldnt have thought it would take that long but kudos to you for doing it! I am borderline fanatical about not touching my brakes on the freeway for this exact reason. I looked at a job offer in Beverly Hills, and though it would have paid more, the only ways for me to get there were: That commute leaves very little time for anything else. I am willing to sacrifice in terms of living space and location in order to have a short commute. 1,040 extra hours a year of non-paid & non-free-time. I hated the long drives, but when you have 3 million people going to the same place at the same time, what else can you do ? I used to live in southern California and that is not unusual. If you are a have important hobbies, are very social, have people/pets you like to spend time with or have to care for, have a lot of housekeeping/errands you need to do.and your commute is keeping you from those things for too long, then a commute like this probably isnt for you. More time to read & crochet. I remember days it took over an hour of just sitting on Westlake to Mercer to the 5. (And in fact, for a year, my husband and I rented a condo apartment 15 minutes away from work and while the commute was amazing, the living arrangements were just way too small.). If I hit traffic at the wrong time, it could take me 1.5-2 hrs to make what was normally a 25-30 minute drive. My aging brain just cant take the stress. Born and raised in LA so sorry about the culture shock! Which probably means a higher rent. Thats why people consider dating people who live on opposite ends of LA to be long-distance relationships. I agree that this is a great idea when possible! The traffic was two red stoplights. But Im absolutely gobsmacked to see 26 minutesthats far outside the norm for anyone Ive ever even been friends with in the US. I cant offer any insight to the actual traffic because I have never been to California but I do live in Mexico City, where traffic and commute can be just as insane judging by what Im reading here. We are likely going to have to move again and it makes my stomach churn to even consider having to take the subway every day. Coming home, though, was awful. why should employers care about my long commute? That works until one person taps the brakes, causing a cascade effect of everyone behind them tapping the brakesand suddenly traffic is stopped for no reason. Topping the list of metro areas with high rates of mega commuting are San Francisco-Oakland-Fremont, CA (2.06%), New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, NY-NJ-PA (1.90%), Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-VA-MD-WV (1.89%), Trenton-Ewing NJ Metropolitan Statistical Area (1.40%), and Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA (1.25%). The user goes on to say that the way they see it, it's only at 2 hrs twice a week which would be the same as 35-40 mins daily of a commute. (But noise canceling headphones fix that issue!). This post gave my traumatic flashbacks. Yep; we discovered that the hard way last year while visiting my uncle in Palos Verdes. I pay at the top of my rent price range to live closer to downtown because not only was my previous commute causing me anxiety and road rage, but it is just more worth it for me to have extra time on the weekdays to get things done and unwind. No regrets. That drive usually takes closer to two hours. I did that for 10 years. According to that research, only about 2.5% of workers nationwide have 1-way commutes over 90 minutes. This is a self-imposed problem. My longest was 2 hours one way but I worked 24 hour shifts 8 times a month so it not as awful as it could have been. I live in the Houston area (suburb & commute to the loop) and my job is 20 miles from me which is anywhere from 45 minutes- 1hr 15 minutes an an average day. I read about LA traffic before, but thought how bad can it REALLY be? And as AAM said, normal or not, what can you handle? When I left, even though there were issues I had with burnout, the position, etc., citing the commute as my primary reason smoothed things over a lot. These are all contributing factors in why traffic is so bad in LA. ), I can move back. Not that anyone cares but Im in staff housing again and my current commute is about four minutes walk. This might sound crazy, but I would hate that! It might take a little more effort to work it out, but it absolutely can be done. For horror, I like Snap Judgments Spooked & Campfire Tales series and Lex Wahls Anything Ghost. Mrs. Coach Taylor Wait, I live in Bernal Heights and work in San Mateo! The LW is entitled to not want to have a commute like that and theres no information that the BF is pressing back against it by saying its normal. (2) I take public transportation. There are lots of nice areas that arent super expensive, and it would immediately solve both of your commutes. Im contemplating a long (1.5 hr) commute as part of my next job. 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