It's my all time favorite gun. Their size also makes them easy to draw and bring to bear quickly. Well, yes and no. Even for self defense Id stick with 158s in a .357 rifle. Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:04 pm Location: southern Maine. I think it was for their 50 year of operation. And I had to have a S&W, but still looking for a "Registered Magnum" model. The .25-06 costs less, too. Hey Jeremy, thanks for the reca Rhino is on my list of revolvers to try! pretty cool. Internal construction can differ depending on the type of bullet and purpose. Excellent price too. Thanks for the rec, Colin! "Since more of the bullets mass is outside the cartridge, there is more room for powder in the cartridge." I have zero complaints about the Windicator. All of my barrels are heavy vented rib. I was there in 1966-67 II Corps. Many are used for deer hunting now days.. i harvest a very old white nosed buck with a .357 and my 30-06 in kentucky during modern firearm season. Use some practice time to shoot mid-range .357 Magnum ammo and finish with a few hot defensive rounds. In similar enough meaning it definitely is a WIN though. On the plus side, these guns can handle large amounts of heavily loaded .357 Magnum ammunition. When we sent the gun to S&W for examination, detonation was their determination, likely due to a light handload. It should have been drifted out and set aside when the Williams was installed, but it wasnt. have the s&w 627 with the 2.635 inch looking at getting the 327 trr8 or the r8 in the 5inch i think it is mot sure yet and u should change the taurus to the 608 from the 66ss same size just 8 shots. Please enter a valid email address . $1,004. Post navigation. We quickly go over what to look for in a wheelgun and our Best .357 Magnum Revolvers across different frame sizes & budgets. I have 9's 45's but the revolver is my favorite to shoot. Love the way it handles. Select what level shooter you are! 38 S&W SPECIAL +P . But I live in a state with unrestricted open and concealed carry, so YMMV.) Its higher capacity and lower recoil are more suited to such applications where the extra power and penetration of the .30-30 would be wasted. Effective. Beautiful to stare at and to shoot. In the end, I decided against it, but I was glad to have learned more about this complex and controversial topic. Model 627 Pro in .357 Magnum. It has an 18 round barrel, weighs a little over six pounds, and holds 9+1 rounds. Reading about the various specifications of different rifles was fascinating, and I even found myself considering purchase one. My opinion. I had a GP-100 and loved it. Lets talk a little about the various frame sizes you can expect to see when shopping. In 1972, Ruger introduced the Ruger Security-Six, Service-Six, and Speed-Six Revolvers for law enforcement, civilian self-defense, and military markets. Hand-Picked Daily GUN DEALS, and Exclusive Coupons Codes >>>. Let us know in the comments below. I bought mine new in 1974 (I think it was in '74) and still haven't shot any that I like as well. I have a ..357 Ruger Blackhawk. Personally, I like the stainless steel version since it handles moisture better than blued steel. At 15 yards, hot .357 loads printed nearly 3 higher than mild .357 and .38 loads, and also slightly to the right. A full power 158gr. Published hot loads run above 25,000 CUP, approximately double a cowboy load. All in all, apart from the inherently higher quality that you get with S&W and Ruger, the Windy is pretty much equal to any gun on this list when it comes down to all practical purposes and I'm quite fond of it. Not much was mentioned about it in your article. With light loads, it boosted a truly anemic .38 Special cowboy load up to +P velocities, and it gave the .38 Special +P equivalent load a 20 percent velocity increase. This revolver is ultra-durable and is a relatively soft shooter while maintaining a reasonable level of affordability. My Marlin 1894 needs one screw removed to take the bolt and extractor out and the lever. chill out seal team six. I can smack pop cans at 100 yards all day long. mitigates recoil and muzzle lift. Our .30-30: an early-1990s Winchester Model 1894 Trapper with a 16.5 barrel. Max expansion: 0.600 What about the Chiapas Rhino? Specifically, the 7mm Rem Mag has about 2-4% more muzzle energy than the .30-06 with these three particular loads. 35 Remy is 5 calibers larger in mass. Ammo kinetic energy and shot placement determine what we call "stopping power", not the gun. Hahahha, is that your "professional" opinion? This is 326 foot-pounds in excess of the original .357 SIG load's muzzle energy, or a difference of 55.91% in favor of the .357 Magnum. Thanks! 38 Special +P-18,500: 6.5 x 55 Swede-45,000: 300 Win Magnum-64,000: 38 Super Auto +P-36,500: 6.5 x 284-No PSI Std. I own one and compared it to the Ruger sp101 before buying the Kimber K6s. True dat, but that kind of defeats the purpose of the matching caliber pistol/rifle combo. After all, the title is a fair warning of what is contained therein. You do not pay You can swap cylinders between .357 and 9mm, and recoil is pretty gentle thanks to the design. no just the 627 almost the same gun so he used that one, and i agree with that choice. It is available in blued and stainless steel finishes and a variety of barrel lengths with the 4.2-inch and 6-inch offerings being the most popular. Over priced at best, "suck" not hardly. My wife enjoys the 357 best of any of my rifle so it gets the nod. Have a S&W Model 686 Six shot .357 magnum with a 4" barrel. the 94 shown, like mine, is a wrangler. Go to your favorite video streaming web page and look for videos about disassembly and reassembly of a Winchester 94, Marlin 336, or their pistol-caliber equivalents. Theyre basically Troopers but less expensive with fixed sights and not quite as gussied up. Case volume was not an issue. Mark also said that many lawman carried a .45 revolver and a rifle caliber Winchester lever gun. Thank you. The .357 Magnum cartridge is a revolver round with a .357-inch bullet diameter. . Yoga bolster Online I have a 4" GP100 match champion that shoots like a dream. I was issued an M16 upon arrival to the 9th ID and we had two M3A1s on our tank (my favorite weapon for APs and LPs). I would like to get ahold of a Smith & weightWesson 357 Magnum with 8 and 3/8 inch barrel. The .357s handgun ballistics are impressive indeed, but how much more impressive does it get from an extra fourteen inches of barrel? What are your favorite models? Then why is the Colt Python on this list. I prefer the 4-inch underlug barrel, adjustable rear sight, and ramp front sight. While both rounds work well for self-defense, the 357 Magnum kicks ass in the realm of hunting. Correction on 2nd lb-ft calculation. Case volume was NOT a factor in the development of the 357 mag, at all. I love that gun! SJHPs for defensive use and they hit about 8 high at 100 yards compared to the 150gr. In self-defense, the .357 Magnum has enough power from the shock wave to stop an attacker even if not vitally hit. The only problem with it was the grip was too small. But the companys first .357 Magnum revolvers wouldnt show up until 1934. While these guns are powerful, their large size and heavy weight make them harder to conceal. That suggests you will get different terminal performance firing the same cartridge out of your revolver and your rifle. I have the Taurus 357. So for $3900 and change I could buy the worlds finest brick? That is why I love this combination caliber. The comparisons have all included .357 magnum pistol velocities though. . Powerful. If your gun is likely to be used primarily for recreational shooting, hunting medium game within 100 yards, or defensive use, the .357 is superior. Perhaps the biggest difference between the .308 and .30-06 is their literal size. It is far too heavy to carry hiking, camping or fishing. The Security Six has the best reviews of all 357 Mag. My kimber1911,45 ultra carry 2, &metro arms 1911 .45 hard chrome are too big for carrying ideally and my beretta 9mm is to. The SAAMI specs call for a .355 groove diameter and a .346" bore diameter. I have a Marlin 336BL in the corner thats my go to rifle. Comparing full power .357 SIG to watered-down .357 Magnum ammo is an apples to oranges comparison. These happen to be some of our favorites. 686+ 4 inch is the best overall revolver on the market right now, .357 Ruger Blackhawk long barrel, how does it rate among pistols. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Black powder occupies a far greater volume than smokeless. When I hear .357 Magnum, I immediately think, "COLT PYTHON"!!! Steel is a little heavier, and better controls .357 Magnums recoil. Used a S&W 6" 686 for years in U.S.P.S.A matches even had a compensator milled in it, the hotter the load the less the muzzle would rise. Too slow and the bullet wont expand. towards your level. Additionally, I have a Dan Wesson in .357 magnum with a 6" barrel purchased in 1977 and it is still in perfect shape and like the 686 it is accurate and can handle heavy loads with no problems. Both great guns but Ruger holds the edge. I regularly carry my Windicator when in situations where deep concealment isn't a necessity (OWB under winter clothing will be fine; it'll stick out a bit in light clothing; IWB appendix carry is possible and the most concealed position available. Ruger SP101, 3-inch barrel. You should check it out. Currently, the 2020 Python is available in either 3-, 4.25-, or 6-inch configurations. K comp is by far my favorite 357mag..Colt Python has become to crazy to purchase..$$$$$$. Smith & Wessons lighter K frame Model 19 was released in 1957 developed to meet the special needs of law enforcement. Although extremely expensive, the MR73 is regarded by many as the finest .357 magnum revolver ever made. But then the caliber opportunities are more varied by far! The latter is an ideal range gun, but it can't compete accuracy-wise with the S&W 686 (which is far more accurate and which isn't even on the list), and when it left the range, it wasn't very useful except as a drawer gun and a paperweight. The Remington website lists their 170-grain .30-30 at 2200 fps and 1827 lb-ft, and the shorty Trapper averaged a real-life 1986 fps and 1489 lb-ft: thats less than a 10 percent velocity penalty and an 18 percent energy penalty. And though the recoil was a bit sharper, the gun was the ideal hunting, camping, hiking and fishing gun -- none of which could be said of the heavier, klunkier GP-100. - too big to carry; and too much for me to handle. 25 after seeing how much the value has gone up and it's not original. It may be pretty weak sauce compared to more modern, high-velocity rounds, but it still gets the job done for most game at reasonable ranges. .30-30 vs .357 Magnum at The Truth About Guns. $1189.00 . cases were difficult to load with light loads in the early days due to *excessive* volume. I read this article back in 2011 & its just as good now, Yep, same. While I own a number of different pistols, I love my revolvers for their simplicity, reliability, and accuracy. Never liked lever guns. Click below for a FREE LESSON! I have found the weight of the Python ideal for stabilizing the recoil of the .357 Magnum. Thanks for the article. Their prices are still reasonable, but they are starting to climb, as the name start to get respected again. It's also worth doing a trigger job to reduce the heavy and jerky pulls for both SA and DA. 357 Magnum Revolvers do not have "Proven Stopping Power". I agree with the Manurhin. What is your opinion of this pistol and what do you estimate its value to be in excellent to new con dition.. Less than a box of shells has been fired through it.. You forgot the Dan Wesson. Purchased this gun in 1985 and have never had a single problem with it. Amazingly smooth action. You left out the best .357 revolver on the market. Sold me on the only .357 mag ammo available at the LGS at the time; 180gr Remington SJHP. 100 yards with a pistol you're a bad man.. . I certainly didnt go wrong with this group of firearms. This revolver is built on a large frame similar to the Smith and Wesson model 29. No, the case was made longer to prevent loading in a 38 special. Go to revolvers then type .357 magnum. Both rifles feature pokedle fnaf tubular magazines, a top-mounted toggle-style action, and a barrel that rotates on a hinge to allow for manually-cocking the hammer. The Vaquero is a retro-style revolver that was made for cowboy action shooting fans and looks like the old Colt Single Action Army Revolver of 1873. Of course this is just my opinion. Hunting distances will be well inside 150 yards. As far as the 'exiting bullets', that must refer to .357 handgun bullets, which would in fact be designed for velocities . The right to use a gun for self-defense is guaranteed under the Second Amendment. Small frame revolvers usually weigh between 12 ounces and 2 pounds when empty. is a great cartridge. You must not have fired the Taurus Tracker. The 2.25-inch and 3-inch models offer synthetic black grips, front ramp sight, and fixed rear sight. You have to spend a ton more money to get a slightly better revolver! You will be horrified. Too fast and it breaks up. Indeed! I am a highly prejudicated in favor of larger caliber revolvers (smallest being a S&W .38 w/ 4.5" barrel) for what i call the three H's- Hunt, Hit, and Hurt- bringing down food, accuracy/proficiencey with the firearm (obviously needed for H1and H2) and puttin the hurt on evildoers up to no good (Home invasion, self and others personal safety etc) I've never had one jam, stovepipe, fail to feed etc My 357 of choice is a Ruger Blkhwk w/ 6.5 bbl I also own two 41 mags, a Ruger and a S&W ,both have 8 3/8" bbls- slight edge to the Smith for quicker reloading- 2 Colt 45 long 6" and 1 has a 4.5 AND just for shits n giggles 2 Heritage Ruffies a 6.5 and a 9 inch both with 22lr and 22 mag cylinders Not to worried bout the ol' CCL aspect I enjoy the article and the other replies to each to their own. It's had its up's and downs but i have a 1970's Blued 5" Colt Python and its in perfect condition and still shoots dead accurate after all this time i wouldn't dream of ever getting rid of it. Only because they're no longer in production, and they were all "hand crafted" so-to-speak in that all the parts were put together by hand. If it crashes into the wall of the tunnel, the run is over. The best current production available, especially the 5 inch 686 performance 7 shot revolver. Good to know. Best .357 ever!!! But not quite. Only one is .357 Magnum. Great revolvers but most people dont know anything about them. There are a ton of revolver models floating around the market, and most are solid. It was done intentionally to prevent accidentally loading the .357 into a 38 special gun. Be sure to read all about the K6s in our review! Finally, theres the J Frameprobably one of the most popular styles of revolvers. Chiappa the new 357mag revolver with the 3' is easier to carry than the 4 inch but gives you better control than the 2 inch, so dont knock it till you try it. Blued, 6 chambers, 6" barrel. Work for 2-3 hours in y0ur spare time and OO get paid 1200 0n y0ur bank acc0unt every week, Get more inf0rmation 0n f0ll0wing site .. LMFAO! I will no longer be reading any of your articles. All in all, its an excellent concealed-carry revolver if you want a lot of firepower in a small package. The 158-grain semi-jacketed soft point bullet permits the quicker transfer of energy, which enables the bullet to do more damage. It become at first added in 1906, and was at the start used inside the United States Army. I own a Ruger Blackhawk 61/2 stainless,, a S&w model 19-4,, and have sold off the two snubby .357s I dont really miss the EAA,, but wished I wouldnt have sold my Taurus 606 to my cousin. Hornady makes a .357 Magnum 140-grain Leverevolution that claims to get 1850 fps and 1064 lb-ft from an 18 carbine. Since more of the bullets mass is outside the cartridge, there is more room for powder in the cartridge. Hollow point ammunition works only in a narrow velocity range. I like mine a lot. Bought a security 6 (4" barrell) about a year ago. In cooler carry my Windy in what you might call "semi-open" OWB carry, under a jacket or vest. Max expansion: 0.557 so if the 357 mag holds the one shot stop record why would need to send more rounds that might miss and hit the wrong . I still regularly take it to the range and it is very accurate and can handle a heavy load with no problem. Practice with light .357 Magnum ammunition to simulate heavier loads. And a Ruger BH ss 6 1/2 brl. I have 3 Dan Wessons in.22, .357, and .44 Magnum. Youll laugh, but it my favorite rifle is my Rossi 1892 with a 16 barrel. I think either 357 or 30-30 is a great utility rifle. 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