And especially so when its held up for mockery by people clearly too privileged to recognize all the ways events can conspire to keep that little piece of paper out of reach. (I have a love/hate relationship with LinkedIn). If its a recruiter youd be interested in hearing from in the future, spend 2 minutes to respond politely. Were they planning another round of investor fundraising or something? This is the best way to manage and repair your business reputation. If you were interested in completing a degree I would honestly use this incident as a way to approach the HR person about a tuition reimbursement program. Or getting one for personal interest. Rhinos have contempt for them.#9 True!#10 Going door to door. But if he isnt out to his parents or something, Id check for sure. My thought was, HR= downline recruiter. Weird vibes from the guy as if they dressed a meth dealer in nice clothes and gave him a back story to regurgitate. I knew that they actually wanted to grow the budget by 10%. OP#3 Your HR person is a jerk I am sorry this happened. Even little stuff, though the level of thoroughness varies depending on the context. I also have ADHD. Also, the real issue here is that the HR person shared information that no one needed but that it was clearly intended to create or enforce a pecking order where the more educated and therefore smarter people could look down on and mock the less educated and therefore stupid people. Being able to put a different company name on your resume might mitigate the problem somewhat, but if a savvy interviewer digs into what the company really is, its going to be a problem. If they say yes hey! Maybe even better would be Susan (whose official name is John) is a great student. I am writing this for two reasons. There were 8 steps to the system and when I failed, I must have failed one of the cult items. Turns out thats a great way to emphasize that they really is for everyone and not just for trans people or (insert stereotype about snowflakes here). A long time ago, I got a weird phone call from someone who claimed he went to high school with me and asked if I wanted to hang out. I would like to see the evidence for this claim. In this context, its pretty obvious that its about a single person, and I would expect most colleges to be hip to the notion of people choosing their pronouns. Seconding this. This video contains dark stories about the abuses I went through. E.g., are you supposed to know that customer X got bought out by customer Y last year, but they havent changed names (or your accounting/sales system hasnt caught up with reality)? If I read a cover letter or interviewed someone who said they worked there during the pandemic because they needed to, and learned a lot about what not to do, and got out as quickly as possible, I would be open to that explanation. Some people do not come out to everyone at the same time. Might be something that helps the OP. If it is my number one priority I will ask a co-worker to read it. Which I found odd since I am out there making money for the company.They send people onbusiness trips, and instead of footing the bill for even a cheap hotel they stayed at another employee's home to save the company money. This office gave the illusion that it was its own entity by having its own name -- this is the exact job description I had applied for -- an entry level account manager: -Making 100+ dials a day over the phone-Sourcing qualified candidates from posted ADS and resume databases like Careerbuilder, Monster, and Zip- recruiter-Engaging in clerical duties like background check paperwork-Utilizing Microsoft Word platforms such as Excel and PowerPoint-Engaging with interviewees' at the front desk such as checking the candidate in, handing out an interview questionnaire etc.-Joining two conference calls a week for skill & team building with other recruiters throughout the country.Benefits:-Health insurance after 90 days' of employment-Paid training-Travel opportunities to national and local conference-Career advancement based on performance not seniority or favoritism-Salary starts off at $25,000-$30,000 annually. I am a high school counselor. The wages you make are below $300 a week. #2: If youre concerned about spelling, grammar, or style errors, try reading your writing out loud. There was a professionally designed waiting room complemented by a ton of business magazines and a very friendly secretary -- the interview itself promised that I would become a manager at the office and experience many different forms of marketing. Yeah, this was my take. The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members. I sold Worldbook and Childcraft door to door in 1981, made enough to pay for my kit and got lots of good exercise, but was glad to abandon that field to get a degree in accounting instead. Guided by strong corporate values, team members at Cydcor are encouraged to be competitive, persistent and goal oriented. As far as I can tell its mostly about knowing how to research/learn about new things quickly, and having a deep background. I would be VERY surprised if they moved her to HR in 6 months. I used to always tell my clients minimum 24hrs as a deadline just to be sure of getting a nights sleep in between my rough draft and polishing. Well, in one of the sentences he had used the wrong pronoun! My boss did a great job at keeping everybody pumped up about heading out to the field. Im glad to give back some of the good feelings you have given me. I love this idea! My employers in the past 25 years are large, global, and/or public companies, and everything has to be done yesterday. Think reign vs rain, right vs write. Which, is why I pick a second person who is not the person Im trying to impress. My last day is Monday, and as soon as I turn in my work equipment Im blocking every last customer number from my phone! If people are not given facts head on then they are not able to calculate their risk factor. I figured that I was going to be separated amongst the group once the boss walked in -- think again. Cydcor is Nasty! Maybe the best thi g would be to do a draft, ask student to look at it and if they agree that the pronouns are correct. Ive always liked the phrase, You cant see the forest for the trees because it applies to many different types of situations. I have to admit, it is pure genious on Cydcor's end. I then find out that I am starting at the same exact level as all of these cool cats hanging in the room -- I'm thinking what the hell is going on here? All business will get complaints. For what it is worth, places in my area seem to be hiring. I had to fix so many words in this post because of flamin autocorrect! , its unimaginable. Said teacher was a math teacher and writing was not one of his strengths. We have a thriving corporate culture as dynamic as the people who live and breathe it every day. And oftentimes, a business leader can have more impact on these terrible HR people, because they can have more sway with executive (non-HR) leadership. (You might already be doing that, of course!) At a certain point your brain sees what it is expecting instead of what is actually there. taking a break of at least 20-30 min to do something else before reviewing. You did the right thing, and I hope the prosecutors absolutely demolished your former company. I know plenty of cis people (most but not all non-straight) who use they pronouns, as a form of both allyship with trans people and a way to fight against the gender binary. I agree that you got a pile on when you were trying to be kind and encouraging. they would always reply Funny how we ended up in the same place yet I have 1/3rd the student debt.. Somebody asked the identity of the employee for reasons of mirth and cruelty, I expect, not because it was pertinent. I got this on my college email but it doesnt look is this a scam.. someone please help asap . You proofread their stuff, and they proofread yours. My guess is that no initial investment probably just means they dont start taking your money until a little later. should I take my Etsy business off my resume? increasing the font size to about 20 somehow bigger words (and fewer words on the screen) make it easier But lets go with what Tuesday said in the thread below; there are smart and talented people who went to college & smart and talented people who didnt. Each office only works with one company, therefore they are flat out lying to the individual by mentioning any other company besides the one they are currently working with. I was close. Members' subservience to the group causes them to cut ties with family, friends, and personal pre-group goals and interests. While this is true theres a huge difference between what youre taking about and an HR person gossiping about peoples salaries. If its someone I know, Id ask them which they prefer, or if they like the mix. Saw the list of the syptoms of a cult. That being said, your HR manager is a horrible piece of work. Most notably (per Wikipedia), one of the attorneys in the famed Scopes Monkey Trial was a male with the name of Sue (oddly fitting for a lawyer, yeah? There is nothing wrong with taking risks, but truly successful people take calculated risks. Who is ED Magedson - Founder, Ripoff Report. He emailed me several times and even called once, which I completely ignored. This. Every time you make a particular error, add it to the checklist to double check words misspelled, format issues, fact checking, etc. You just use the pronouns. Recruiters are used to emailing tons of people and only hearing back from a fraction of them; thats just how recruiting works. Ask me anything. Right! Wow, thanks for taking the time to detail all that. When I mentioned I had applied for a sports marketing position, they told me Oh, we write that in the ad because we want competitive, sports-minded people for this job. If they say no you have let them know you noticed the conversation. I had applied to this "company" branch through my University's private job/internship database (my sheisty employer was able to post an ad there because he was a Temple Alumnus). Weve got the 8 steps, the three 5s, acronyms for customer types and impulse factors, and if you dont use every single one of them in the same way with each customer (but also make sure to respond flexibly to every scenario!) #4: Strongly seconding the advice to double-check with Susan about how they want you to refer to them. I have a friend with a real sales job, he sells refurbished plastic oil drums in bulk to companies. It sounds like youre rushing, and that can definitely cause this. Props to you for suffering with Cydcor for so long. I have in many instances asked students if I can share certain things but I hesitated to do that this time. If its typos or math, Alison has good advice. But maybe you dont have all the context you need to do your job. For the sake of transparency: I would for sure delete comments promoting specific MLMs here (because I dont want anyone hijacking my site to promote a specific business; that would seem pretty spam-ish to me), but not comments just defending that business model in general. I borrowed money for rent and eventually had to move back in with family and find two part time jobs as a barista/waitress to make ends almost meet. My LinkedIn profile states Im not looking to move employers. It makes you the smart one for getting into your career for free. So Im totally supportive of the OP and think that the HR reps move was a jerk move. This is super reassuring to hear, thank you! Despite this, the salesman training me went into 44 businesses that day and tried to lie to each of them. I just make stupid mistakes. The revolving door of applicants vs how many people actually get hired vs how many people come back after the first day is truthfully embarrassing to ANY company. EDIT: I see my thread sort of actually catching on; if something doesn't make sense to you please let me know in the comments and I'll be glad to clarify. consider whether it is a matter of temperament. I worked in a job where a number of my coworkers had associate-equivalent degrees while I have a bachelors. Johnson said that her parents were turned down by a judge in Tampa, but travelled to Pinellas County, where a judge approved her marriage. Please rethink that. When I first started, about 25 years ago, a degree was nice to have. This really helps to spot not only errors, but omissions as well. Customer acquisition programs aimed at small and medium-sized businesses match client products and solutions to customers' unique needs. So why did I get training pay for my second week when I was promoted on day 7? Im not stupid, I know the data and materials. Maybe the OP could ask the student or call the school to verify. I had such a viscerally negative reaction, I got up and left in the middle of the interview literally while the guy was talking! Then Id begin to question why they so desperately needed that info. For people I know who do this, their first choice is the first pronoun, but they are also perfectly fine with the second if its easier for you. Our HR manager is very immature and has done several things that I question (mostly sharing private information) but I tend to just mind my own business. If possible. Yes, HR will be calling resumes, interviewing etc. My GP helped out with some meds and I got lots of cat cuddles at home. I have never worked at X Company or even interviewed there. I barely lasted two days at a marketing company in the mid-00s that was going door to door getting small business owners to switch their phone service. All these red flags so far, BUT I am tired of living with my parents and applying for jobs; it seemed like a Godsend to an impatient young recent college graduate second guessing his forte in science. My husband never completed his college degree because he got an amazing job offer from a summer internship after his sophomore year. This helps you to spot mistakes because it stops you making predictions or assumptions about what the text says that stop you noticing whats actually there. Now, almost 40 years later, he is still with the same company, but now is a senior applications developer. Going off to college and not being able to call your mom about your day, your friends, boys etc. Im not sure why (felt like flaunting? This organization seems to have a bad vibe online (pyramid scheme), but most reviews are US-based. Good luck! after working a full day you get back for the magical s**t bag ceremony of bells in which you display your "accomplishment" for the day then as a leader you go to closed door meetings and usually go over the teams performance and the the "Juniors" usually its put in such a way that either they are awesome or utter shits that can't do it and they are. Dont be embarrassed if you can help it, just smile and say thanks for catching that, Ill fix it, and keep moving. Fingers crossed for you). Thats an area everyone would notice immediately, so I definitely needed to fix it. LW3 as a fellow non-degreed person (freshman dropout with a GED); let me tell you this: having a degree doesnt define you. If you think it will get traction and have the connections you can run it high up the chain. Maybe some questioned why my mom's ex-husband would say one of her eulogies, but for those close to her we know how much my mother adored my father and appreciated his friendship and all he had done. I work at a university and its getting more common to add your pronouns as a part of your email signature or at the bottom of a letter. And have to train yourself not to autopilot or skim your way through. Put good stuff into you, so you have something to draw on at work. So many people are dicks about it, someone expending effort to make sure theyre following our wishes is a nice change. Their choice may even vary from job to job. In this case, assuming the student gives you the language they would prefer you use, I think the benefit to the student outweighs the propriety of not specifying the pronouns. It really helps! Thanks for the advice! also there will be unexplained "cancellations" on your checks so its even worse than you expect. Good thing theyre not hiring for IT positions; more than half the IT people I know have some sort of liberal arts undergraduate major and either learned IT on the job or did some sort of boot camp. Just go with whatever the student wants you to use; if its someone asking you for a recommendation you probably have enough relationship that that should be an easy conversation. It really forces me to slow down and shift my perspective a little so that Im not just seeing what I know should be there, rather than what actually is there. Im still glad I got it but you are not a lesser person for not having it. Not sure if he had violence in mind or just wanted to scare us, but happily nobody actually fell for it. Id only be laughing at myself if I pointed out that I spent all that time and money on the degree, and have ended up in exactly the same position as everyone else. For the most part, I think fields like these are probably genuine efforts at being inclusive, and that is how I would see them. It seemed unlikely you would delete dissenting comments, but equally surprising that there arent more of them. Among the many hats I wear I also write a lot of recommendation letters for students who are applying to colleges and universities, scholarships, and other activities such as internships and job opportunities. What Is Cutco Cutlery?. Even though they claimed I could have the freedom to do what I want, the freedom really meant you could hang out with other Cydcor people because they're the only one's who will understand you. The students deadname is going to be all over their application materials. this line. Thats part of the scam. But if youre more rushing just to get through it,try setting the work down after youre finished and then come back and recheck it later with fresh eyes. If you are talking about the clubs Susan is in and how Susan organized a food drive and scored a winning soccer goal in a critical game they are not going to think you are reusing a letter because you use they. Id only worry if that field was mandatory (according to the employer). Other commenters have raised other valid concerns about this particular issue, but admission staff have to look at literally thousands of letters of rec every application cycle, so I wouldnt sweat the negative impact aspect of this. Day 2: After another ridiculous set of morning rituals, my boss asks me how excited I am to hit the "field" -- I ensured I was excited, but I didn't know what the hell the "field" was. They dont need to keep people, they just need to keep people long enough to get some work out of them that is essentially free labor due to the horrible commissions. So even just putting it down and taking a 10 minute break, getting up for a cup of water and stretching my legs, I can see much clearer when I sit back down. Me: this is a 10,000 word dissertation please stop doing this. All they care is that you take ownership, fix it and find a way not to let that particular thing get by you again. Also consider whether you are making the same mistakes repeatedly or learning from them, but making new ones. I second the suggestion to put the document down, do something else for a little while, and then go back and look at it again once your brain has changed gears. However, the school setting does make it seem a bit different I feel like it has a lot to do with the type of relationship you have. Workforce supply and demand has changed more than the actual job requirements have. I like you :), Big time DA fan! It was less than I made by a lot and I was done. Re: OP1: beyond working to get out as quickly as you can (as you should), I might suggest to put in research as well on HR practices, duties, how good HR functions that sort of thing. The product we're selling is legitimate and reps don't have to buy a package to get started, but the training, promotion, and commission structure is 100% pyramid. It is about there student s convenience, not the recommender. I ended up getting an MBA and had years of business & finance related work experience. She better not be getting the same pay! Id be concerned that someone pulling out personal info to entertain this nosy group and be the center of attention might have trouble drawing a line. Two, to give people who are about to begin their successful careers with a CYDCOR subsidiary all of the information they will never get while employed with CYDCOR. I am proud of my education and certainly dont think it was a waste, although it was expensive. If theyre revealing this with disregard for your personal data, they are also perfectly capable of gossiping about truly confidential things and your org should worry about that. for 2 weeks work but they of course tax you on your check so about 120.00. and of course it isn't mandatory but you should go to team nights which you must use a bulk of your money and poker nights where most employees have too much fun if you catch my drift. My 3.8 GPA, marketing experience, organizational experience, and set of leadership skills literally meant nothing -- I was at the bottom with people who didn't even attend college! I usually catch it when presenting and say, Sorry folks, that is supposed to read.. and roll on. Lets just agree that we all made the best decision we could at a very early age when we didnt have enough life experience to know all of the consequences of our choices and were doing the best we can with what weve got. 2. Thats where I derive my value, and from the sound of your letter, you can definitely do the same. People mocked me too. OP2, aside from taking a break before reviewing, try doing something simple to change the way your document looks change the zoom, switch fonts, something like that. Huh? Its totally possible (and common) to be out in certain contexts and not in others, especially professionally or academically. If youre looking for wording, something like I wanted to check with you about which name and pronouns youd like me to use in this letter. I found myself knocking on door after door trying to sell folks Verizon Fios. Reading some of these responses to LW 3 makes me feel like quoting the movie Matilda Dont snear at educated people. I have a Masters degree, as does everyone in my chosen profession. The student LW4 describes uses he/they pronouns. Checklists are gold for consistent proofing and you can add another step if a new error crops up. 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